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Bob Martin's avatar

I think it would help to put that 23 gigatons in perspective. How much would that actually do? What percentage of an offset would that be? And given capitalism and how it operates, is there a way of not only leaving this area alone in perpetuity but preventing more forests from being cut down for wood and grazing land?

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I understand the methodology laid out and how the Nature.com article drew its conclusions, because I've spent the last decade volunteering at a NFP native tree nursery on the tiny motu I live on, in the lightly populated South Pacific, our regenerative project has been spectacularly successful, with amazing support in our tiny community for the project. To my knowledge we're the only place that is inhabited by humans, where the birdsong is increasing, I'd love to be corrected on that detail if there were more.

However, there's always a caveat with me...... "could regrow naturally if simply left alone."

Very little at scale is done without a profit motive and scaling is imperative for the conclusions of the paper to bear any tangible benefits. Plus, we'd need to stop global deforestation to even tread water. That's impossible under capitalism and an ever-increasing human population.

In our recent homage to the late great Paul Ehrlich, I mentioned how Paul and Geraldo Ceballos emphasized how important biodiversity is and how fragmented ecosystems have a habit of unravelling simply because of their fragmentation.

Back to the issue of "could regrow naturally if simply left alone."

There is a multi-decadal time lag between when emissions are injected into atmosphere and when the full effects manifest, for large pulses of CO2, i.e. when entire forests burn, it can take centuries for the full effects to manifest, there is no "Simply left alone".

I'm not critiquing the paper, just to be a contrarian but it's imperative we look at the predicament holistically and avoid 'Toxic Positivity."

I'll drop our homage to Paul Ehrlich, and a paper detailing how large emission pulses can take centuries to manifest below for further reference.

https://kevinhester.live/2026/03/30/team-nature-bats-last-homage-to-professor-paul-ehrlich/

"Using simulations with an Earth System Model we show that the time lag between a carbon dioxide (CO2) emission pulse and the maximum warming increases for larger pulses. Our results suggest that as CO2 accumulates in the atmosphere, the full warming effect of an emission may not be felt for several decades, if not centuries."

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-time-lag-between-a-carbon-dioxide-emission-and-Zickfeld-Herrington/718aa7ae4230b07d945e01c6c233e8d0ae12078f?utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Q_tjGCfrCbrffqV-tB5jwa19O1VX46cnQSye_qg0NcBI8Um0AZ0s_b4U

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