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Kevin Hester's avatar

Who would have thought that converting the Amazon Rain Forest into a Palm Oil Plantation would terminate the rain the previous forests produced and lead to the forest becoming a net emitter of CO2 and no longer a sink? Everyone actually.

Guy quoted some papers from the "Designed to Fail IPCC" going back to 2008 confirming that the transition is irreversible.

Compare those papers to the ones the IPCC produces today shows how corporate capture of the organisation has accelerated, in conjunction with the poly-crises we don't face. Their analysis is less urgent today than it was a decade ago!

Can anyone else smell the corporate rats controlling the narrative?

https://kevinhester.live/2021/09/06/its-time-to-acknowledge-the-spectacular-success-of-the-ipcc/

Guy R McPherson's avatar

Smelling those corporate rats is bad for one’s health! Still, the stench is undeniable.

Bob Martin's avatar

Too little, too late: yes, that's the whole story when it comes to humanity and its feeble attempts to hold back the destructive forces of modern economies on the environment on which we depend for survival. When will they ever learn? When it's too late (if even then).

Guy R McPherson's avatar

I wish I could disagree. Sadly, I can’t.

Mez's avatar

Yes, "That's vanity" is being played out by humans everyday, everywhere. And the planet and it's living creatures pay the price. I like this line from Nietzsche "The vanity of others runs counter to our taste only when it runs counter to our vanity." I'm not educated much on Nietzsche, but this line seems to explain why humans do so many of the things we do - to our ultimate detriment. Thanks for the post, Guy.

Guy R McPherson's avatar

Thank YOU for the informed comment. A line comes to my mind, from a song for which I don’t recall the name or the writer: “When will we ever learn?”

Mez's avatar

Song: "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?" -- written by Pete Seeger (per info on Google) as anti-war (Vietnam) song. Sad to think of this of song now that there is war in the mid-east. The line goes something like..."where have all the flowers gone; gone to soldiers everyone; when will we ever learn; when will we ever learn." My elementary school (in the 1970s) had a Friday afternoon sing along, where the entire school got together and sang songs...one was "Where Have All the Flowers Gone"; another was "If I Had a Hammer". It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized I'd been singing war protest songs! Must be why I am so opposed to war now. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.